http://dotnutz.tribe.net/thread/7083a1c4-90bd-4046-b9d3-7126afb6c9ed?format=rss Tribe.net. Local Connections http://dotnutz.tribe.net/thread/7083a1c4-90bd-4046-b9d3-7126afb6c9ed#3e728e07-62fc-431b-9536-8a2399b38ed0 Hey there, I totally know what you mean man, I've studies C++ , vb.NET, web design, I'm A+ & CCNA certified and I just recently got my Associates of Applied Science in Microcomputer Systems. I still can't find an entry level job, I'm currently working a temp job untill I find something, here is a really cool site www.craigslist.org I'm also in the DC washington area, the Craig's List site actually has some pretty good jobs up there, and I think you'll have a good chance of finding that small company that needs an IT guy, I check it almost daily I'm sure you'll find soemthing there, god willing. good luck buddy, and let me know how it goes! 8) Ash Tue, 13 Sep 2005 14:07:07 GMT http://dotnutz.tribe.net/thread/7083a1c4-90bd-4046-b9d3-7126afb6c9ed#3e728e07-62fc-431b-9536-8a2399b38ed0 Ash 2005-09-13T14:07:07Z http://dotnutz.tribe.net/thread/7083a1c4-90bd-4046-b9d3-7126afb6c9ed#0700bc51-af03-44b6-9bed-6270e8b8a0ba unfortunately, i haven't really made it to any CMAP meetings, since i live/work north of baltimore, and between work schedule and other commitments, I haven't been able to find time to get southwards. i still read the list daily though, hehe Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:33:16 GMT http://dotnutz.tribe.net/thread/7083a1c4-90bd-4046-b9d3-7126afb6c9ed#0700bc51-af03-44b6-9bed-6270e8b8a0ba ben 2005-04-12T11:33:16Z http://dotnutz.tribe.net/thread/7083a1c4-90bd-4046-b9d3-7126afb6c9ed#ad4db930-b2d6-4c04-bb3a-a9177f909ba0 Hey networking is great.. any ideas appreciated. I'll have to check your links, I am a member of CMAP haven't seen you at the meetings I've been at.. didn't know about Baltomsdn cool thanks.. Tue, 05 Apr 2005 06:03:32 GMT http://dotnutz.tribe.net/thread/7083a1c4-90bd-4046-b9d3-7126afb6c9ed#ad4db930-b2d6-4c04-bb3a-a9177f909ba0 Frak: 2005-04-05T06:03:32Z http://dotnutz.tribe.net/thread/7083a1c4-90bd-4046-b9d3-7126afb6c9ed#2d34cd9f-f8ff-4e0d-aa39-5a4cb3464021 eh, the problem is I haven't really done alot of work with ASP.NET (my webhost where I publicly display my work is Linux based).. the 'quite awhile' was more referring to general webdesign (Flash,XHTML, Javascript, and recently PHP) I don't have a portfolio up because, honestly, I'm not a great designer and more technical now. My designs tend to be bland and I feel that they wouldn't attract anyone. You helped a great deal. The system admin at a smaller company sounds like a great ideal and an opportunity that doesn't appear often. Tue, 05 Apr 2005 06:02:03 GMT http://dotnutz.tribe.net/thread/7083a1c4-90bd-4046-b9d3-7126afb6c9ed#2d34cd9f-f8ff-4e0d-aa39-5a4cb3464021 Frak: 2005-04-05T06:02:03Z http://dotnutz.tribe.net/thread/7083a1c4-90bd-4046-b9d3-7126afb6c9ed#795724b6-3d11-490a-ae77-bce79fe99d90 in my opinion, networking is the best way... there are list groups (www.cmap-online.com and www.baltomsdn.com are two that I'm on, baltimore & central maryland focused), people on there are always looking to hire at various levels. Also, www.techies.com is a good site to create a resume on. I filled out their list of technologies and copied it to my own resume (after tweaking the design a little!), and recruiters/employers loved it. they can look at each technology and know immediately (what you say) what your skill level is. speaking of recruiters, they can be useful, though most often at temporary or temp to perm jobs, which may not be how you want to go. i had good experiences with them, but not all places do. you might want to try that out, see if they can place you. if you make your resume public on Monster, and even hint lightly at the words "web developer", you'll get calls. other than that, as was stated above, testing is good, but not always necessary, i've found. Wed, 30 Mar 2005 17:36:57 GMT http://dotnutz.tribe.net/thread/7083a1c4-90bd-4046-b9d3-7126afb6c9ed#795724b6-3d11-490a-ae77-bce79fe99d90 ben 2005-03-30T17:36:57Z http://dotnutz.tribe.net/thread/7083a1c4-90bd-4046-b9d3-7126afb6c9ed#34ee1d10-9fa2-4972-bc06-314457d60626 How long is 'quite awhile'? You may be qualified already for most entry level positions. What can get you in the door is a little bragging on a resume. Put on there EACH site you have built in C#, how you did it. What other technologies you used (MySQL, MS SQL, OOP, Output caching, etc). Show the company that you have plenty of experience, and you hae a huge willingness to learn. Of course you also have to have SOME talent, but not always :). I have seen some relatively bad programmers with jobs. I have been programming in .NET since the first beta. Before that I was doing ASP / VB 6 / COM+, etc. I had to get a start in that by doing what you have done. I built several sites 'for quite awhile' before I got an entry level job. One option is to find a small company that needs a baisc IT person, if you can do that type of thing. I started out being a network administrator for a company w/ 25 users. I was the entire IT department. Look for companies like that. It worked, because they needed small programs here and there, and I got to learn in that environment. That may have been a unique experience, but one never knows. I have not taken any of the certification tests, as I have not had the time to study for what is on the test. I have taken a few practice tests, HIGHLY RECOMMENDED, and I did not do so well. The tests are not easy, so you want to go in prepared. In my opinion, the tests prepare you for beyond an entry level position. You SHOULD be able to get into some companies by proving you can do the work, a test can do that, but so can the work you have already done. I hope this helped you out some, and didn't confuse you too much :) Tue, 29 Mar 2005 12:37:04 GMT http://dotnutz.tribe.net/thread/7083a1c4-90bd-4046-b9d3-7126afb6c9ed#34ee1d10-9fa2-4972-bc06-314457d60626 Brad 2005-03-29T12:37:04Z http://dotnutz.tribe.net/thread/7083a1c4-90bd-4046-b9d3-7126afb6c9ed#434baa90-85ab-42cb-9f48-7cfc984da12c So I've been working with C# and .NET for a sometime now. I've been building websites for quite awhile but more on a designer level. Now I feel I'm almost ready to take my first exam (developing web applications with C# in visual studio .net) Anyways, my question is will this help me find something entry level? Most jobs I see on Monster and such are for people with 3+ or more years of experience. How does one get started? Tue, 29 Mar 2005 03:41:00 GMT http://dotnutz.tribe.net/thread/7083a1c4-90bd-4046-b9d3-7126afb6c9ed#434baa90-85ab-42cb-9f48-7cfc984da12c Frak: 2005-03-29T03:41:00Z